S1E13- Whole lotta Projects

The year keeps getting better with new music projects dropping every friday. Dele and Uko have some amazing picks but there's only one winner for this quarter. Press play to find out which ones make the cut and the best project of Q2.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Today we are here for real business. Yeah, it's straight to the point. There's no joking around. No dilly dally. Hello everyone. Welcome to your favorite music podcast. Hear me out.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

I like that thing on your head, though.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

I like your I was just about to say the same thing about you that your outfit is really giving. Is it what you're wearing on your head? Is it the necklace? Everything just goes really hard. I like it so much. But thank you. Thank you for this. I'm trying to look like Fola. If you've been seeing Follow recent videos, he has this on his head, so it looks nice.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

And it fits you, it shoots you.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

Maybe I should do this all the time. What do you guys think? I should do this more. Okay. Um, today is actually serious business. Today is Q2. Yeah, album review. This is what we are all about. We're here to discuss. Yeah, there's no uh by this, by this, no. But first things first, I saw something I would like to get your opinion about. Since you're here to discuss albums, someone made a tweet and said the Afrobeat space is not an album space. Uh we should stick to singles. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:35

I think it's um artist-based, in my opinion. Some artists are not album artists. I think I've said this before, some artists are not just album artists, but they are proper hit makers. Or some artists, after one good album, they should just stick to giving singles. I won't say Afrobeat as a whole because we definitely have classics, we definitely have good albums, even over the past three, six months into the year. We've seen that some people have dropped some decent art and all of that. So, yeah, it's artist-based for me. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 2:06

This is why I think I have like this old thing going on in my head right now that I want to say. So um artists or music and uh musicians, singers, they're artists in their own ways, and people who write books, authors, they are they're also artists in their own way, also. Imagine you you buy a book and you just tear a chapter from it, and that's all you read without like reading the entire book. I feel like that's what a single is. A single is a chapter from a book, a complete book. And then when you listen to a single, you have a chapter from that entire book. Now imagine going to meet that author and telling the author that I only want you to write chapters now. Just chapters only, not an entire book. I feel like that's what you're saying when you tell artists not to make albums and they should stick to they should stick to just making what's it called? Singles only.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Singles.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

It's it's impossible. Ideas need to be fleshed out, and sometimes you need an album to flesh this out. So I feel like every artist is an album artist. If they really put their mind to it and put to work to it, when you have an idea in your mind and you want to put it out there, it you can't do all that in just one song. I mean, of course, there are going to be singles, there are going to be, but then you need an album. Albums are very important, EPs are very important, extended playlists, very important. All these things are very important. In fact, mixtapes are very important. So I will not say Afrobeat in its way. If you go back to the time past, Fela was dropping albums. In fact, Fela had lots of albums. The people before this set, this generation, they've always been dropping albums. In fact, they do with live bands, they have like lots of albums. Afrobeat has always been an album space, and I don't think telling artists to stick to just um singles is the right thing to say to them.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

So, since we're on this um topic of art, you entered the book sphere, right? Let's let's now enter football, right? Okay, I think it's arguable, it's arguable rather because someone could be a nine but not be good at heading. He might be good with his feet. You know, there's something called a complete nine. Yes, Ronaldo, our nine, or maybe Cristiano Ronaldo, you can say he's a complete nine. He uses his left, he uses his right, he uses his head, uses his chest, he can do a bicycle kick, he can do everything. He is a complete number nine, right? Or say someone like um I'm trying to think now. Who comes to mind, Rudy? You say maybe he's just good with his leg, he's not good with his head, he's not good with his head. The aerial balls are not his thing.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

There was this guy that was playing for Liverpool and then went to Stoke, this really tall guy. Crouch. Crouch, yes, Peter Crouch. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

He was good with his head, but he wasn't. You wouldn't say, well, his his legs were good, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:17

His legs were good, but he's not good with like link-up plays and stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Exactly. So they are complete nines and they are nines that just have their specialty. So now when we when we when we come back to artists, right, we can say that they are complete artists, albums, singles, they will deliver. And there are some that just singles will be their thing. They will always give you a hit back to back. So I feel like um, in my opinion, it's agreeable, but it's it's good for an artist to try their luck on things because that makes you see your pros and cons and makes people appreciate you more when you can put out an album, put out an EP, put out, and it's just it keeps going. It they enter, it enter up and up. But yeah, for me, I don't think everyone is an album artist.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

I okay, we we have difference of opinion on this, actually. So um I still believe you. In fact, do you remember what Stomzy said on one of his songs? He said, I'm better than the single you heard about. So sometimes you you you hear um an artist, you you get their single, you listen to it, and then you just want more, and then you go search for the album and then you find some rare gems. I mean, it's not all the time, sometimes you find an album, and you're like, What? Why are these songs like this? It sounds nothing like the single I heard, but yeah, um, yeah, I believe everyone can somehow be an album artist. Yes. Um, so going into it, we're yet to discuss project days, albums, EPs, and um what's it called again? Mixtapes or whatever it is. Yeah. Projects. And there is this one that came first. Um just before you go, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

If you're just tuning in, uh we had a quarter one session where we discussed the project's drop within a certain period. It was more of January up until March. And now we're discussing about the next three months. So it's more like Q2. That's what we're calling it. So yeah. If you've missed, if you missed that episode, it's probably episode uh six or seven. That was the episode we spoke about. You can head back today and listen to what project made it to the top. And today we'll be discussing on the projects dropped across the past three months, and only one will make it to the final. Yeah, till it hit me.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Um, do you want to tell them the metrics also?

SPEAKER_01 7:41

We have metrics we're using to Yeah, the the metrics were or the scorecard were creativity, that's trying something new, retention, ability to listen to the album at a go from start to finish, production on the album, the racism, and the topic discussed on the album. So that's our metric. Yeah. For yeah, me our podcast, that's the metric we are using. I don't know what other people use, but that's the metric we feel makes an album or a project great.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

Yes. In fact, the retention part is very important.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Very key. Yeah, very key.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Very, very key. I think it's it will be nice if you listen to an album and you always want to go back to it. It is really that makes like a project special. Um, by the way, if you're listening, you can hit us up on Niger. Let us know the project that you've been cooked on, the one you can stop listening to. Yeah. We would like to know. Definitely. So um this podcast, we like to spotlight, you know. Um, imagine arts, arts that are not getting as much uh buzz as they would like to. And someone eats us up and it was like, you know what, I believe in myself so much, and I want you guys to listen to my project. I believe in this project so much. I want you guys to listen to it and give me your honest opinion. I I really love this confidence because you know if he was very confident in what he has made, the work he has put into his project, and then he was like, you guys listen to it and give your honest opinion. And if you're listening right now, this is our honest opinion on your project. So I did go into the project. The name of the guy is Timmy Banks. Um, the album name is The Experiments, and just like the name, he experimented a lot on the project. It's an album. He he had one before this, calm, but this is his uh like sophomore, and he's doing a lot more experimentation. I think he's still an artist trying to find himself. Find his sound, and yeah, and you can tell from the project itself. So there are a lot of songs that are very RB, in just showing his vocal excellence, and then there are ones that are the typical pop. I really love the pop songs on it. For example, Kiki.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Kiki.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

I like I like Kiki. It's it's I think it's one of the best on the albums.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

You love me, but not that one, not that Kiki.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

Not that Timmy Banks, Kiki. It's a good song. I really loved it. In fact, the intro to the album, the dancing song, when I played it, I said, okay, you know what? You have me hooked. I because this song is really good, dancing. I want to listen to the rest of the project. Yeah, and um, he has some really important things they talked about, of course, love, but he also talked about things like prayer, praying for more, you know, praying for more. Everybody wants more. And he was praying for more on these. I like that song with prayer, and he has some features on it also, like DJ Aldrama. I like that song, the one with DJ Aldrama, the prayer song, it's really good. And um, so it's a decent album, and I want you guys to go and check it out. It's on Spotify, Timmy Banks, The Experiment. And if you listen to it, you can let us know what you think. So that's the first album you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Yeah, when I when I when I went through the album, I just I you know when you know, like um an artist is just trying to get himself out there, trying to check what the fans are saying, you know. And I said, Timmy, you did a good job. You you've been able to appease the Afropop, the R ⁇ B guys, and the dance hall, and you know, you've you've touched a lot of people. Although um at the moment, I'm not sure how many people listen to you, but you you have something, like there's something out there, and it's really good. And um, to be honest, um, I look forward to the more or the more things you have to drop. So, yeah, well done, Timmy. Lovely work.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Yeah, um, so in terms of it's still an album you're going to use the metrics for. Um, in terms of creativity, I don't know. He tried a lot of things on it, it's an experimental album. So I I won't say um, yeah, it's it's not I underscore card. The retention, it's 20 songs. I feel like Jimmy Banks. I feel like Jimmy Banks, it's it's too early to drop 20 songs at a goal.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Maybe that was the first thing when I once once I saw it, I was like, nah, Chris Brown, hold on. Like, hold up, hold up, hold up. Anyways, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Maybe 11 songs, 13 songs, four stats. I feel I feel like 20 is a lot, but um, it wasn't bad retention-wise. The production wasn't bad. The production was actually, I was like, okay, I didn't, I wasn't expecting this much, and it actually blew me away with the production on the album. So I like that. It's a good song. If uh it's a good album, by the way. If I'm rating like with all the metrics we use, if I'm rating it like over 10, I'll say five. Five is really decent. So for me.

SPEAKER_01 12:46

Same, same. I'm with you on that.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Okay, good. So five.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

And um, just just my own two cents on this, uh, Timmy, because you've asked for this. Uh I'll just say you should leverage on social media because that's the power. That's where everything is like. You need your you need your fans to be feeling you, so your social media needs to be top-notch. Like, you need to be popping, drop yourself, show yourself, put your face out there, put your music, put everything, you know. And yeah, nice work, Timmy.

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Nice one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Uh who's next on the list now?

SPEAKER_00 13:18

Who's next? Emma Gray.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

We are hitting the bull by the home. Comb, comb, comb.

SPEAKER_00 13:22

No, no, no jokes today. Emma Grey, I like that. Uh yes. In but first, let me just say Emmo Gray, Grace Anatomy, right? Isn't it interesting?

SPEAKER_02 13:33

Emma Grey, cheeky, nice.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

I mean, it's a bit cheesy, but I like it. Sometimes cheesy things are just are just fun. It's fun. I like it.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, Gray's Anatomy, the movie, then his name is actually Emmo Gray. So he just said Grace Anatomy. So nice song. For creativity, I give you points for that one. Give you points, Emma Grey. Uh, not a lot of people know him, I can bet. But I knew Emmo or I first heard him on the song with Benson back in 2019 or 2021. It was titled 0903. We're basically talking about some girl that it was giving the vibe of R. Kelly and um same girl. Same girl. Yeah, it was giving that vibe on that song. So I hadn't really listened to Emmo since then. I hadn't really paid attention. Then he dropped your type, which is on this EP, is with Benson. And um, that was last year, ending of last year. And I was like, oh shit. I remember this dude. Then one one day I just opened my Apple Music and I said, Oh, he's dropped an EP, Emma Grey, and I sent it to you. I was like, guy, check this out. And to be honest, it was a good project, seven songs. I think you said something about gravity. There's something peculiar you said about gravity. Can you remind me?

SPEAKER_00 14:46

Gravity is with Bad Boy OML, and I like Bad Boy OML. In the beginning of Gravity, I think they sampled a Jackson 5 song. And in my head, I'm like, Emma Gray, you have a lot of money. If you're sampling Jackson 5, I mean, that's that's that means you're paying a lot for this sample.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

Emma Gray, if you guys have a way of sampling things without paying for it, please let us know. Reach out to us. You want to know because if you're if you're sampling, but the sample actually made a lot of sense. It made this song really interesting, catchy from the first listen. And for for reels, I've loved everything Bad Boy ML has been on. Bad Boy ML just left his label. He just left, he just left DAPA. Yeah. Um, so I really enjoyed listening to Bad Boy ML. I've been listening to him since Shakura and La. He was on that song with Shoday. Show Day. Um now he's on a song with Emma Grey, and I enjoyed Gravity. By the way, there's a song on this EP I love a lot, also. That's Youth. I like the I like what he was saying on Youth. I like that. Today's a good day.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

We are we are in sort of youth as well. Same, same, same.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

He was giving the whole story of his come up to losing his mom, his first single, you know, when he was like having useful exuberance and all of those things.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

Popsy, I'm going to say something, and I want you to just think about it. So I saw something on the internet, and he says, God, God is actually really special. You know, if it's you know if it's gaslights God, you feel they go through, if they go through tough time, me they scream to God. Say, God, why are they go through tough time? May God still show you more pepper.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Now for you. You know your job. Job story, they play.

SPEAKER_00 16:32

So someone quoted it with and said, even in the Bible, he said, Um, I will show mercy to those that will show mercy to you. You cannot gaslight him. And this this this song kind of reminds me of that with because Emma Gray was like, I didn't go through tough time. I'm a master pie. Like, yeah, oh my god, touch everybody. Don't go there. You know, if you really gaslight time, you know if you tell waiting God go do next. Okay, he will do it at his own time. Very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, very decent project, seven songs, easy to listen. Um, on the scorecard, I'll just jump straight to the scorecard. What's the scorecard? What are we saying? So, for creativity, emo just reminds me of Mobad. Like, there's this distinctive voice he has that just gives me Mobad. Oh, um, rest in peace, Mobad, by the way. Um, trying something new. That's how Emo sounds. I don't think he did anything. The only point for creativity I'll give him is that title. That title was killer.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

In fact, um I'm sorry to say this. I think it wasted Benson feature on your type. I kind of like expected more. When I listened to your type, I was expecting more from that song, and then I got to it, I was like, okay, come on.

SPEAKER_01 17:53

Yeah, I know what you mean. I get what you mean. As a Benson fan, I get what you mean. Yeah. So yeah. Uh for creativity, okay. Title, I give you points. Retention, I could. But what usually happens on this project, anytime I listen to it, I stop at the feature with Benson. Just cause for whatever reason, when I play the song after, it feels like I'm going down. Like it seems I'm going on, I'm going on the rise. Then when it gets to that, your type, it just feels like it's going down. Maybe just because it's Benson on it. Um production on the album. It was alright. I think Dele can talk more on production. He's a he's the production enthusiast.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

In fact, um, the production on this album is the letdown, it's the biggest letdown. I mean, uh, Emmo tried, like you said, Emmo's voice is special. Yeah. Um, and the the topics he touched on were very important. I liked it. On Judes and even Finn. Finn talked about you know being addicted to something, not just drugs. And just you can be addicted to so many things.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

Yeah, but he used the woman to describe it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

This, but the the production we're not eating. Even like I said, the Benston song felt like a letdown. Like one of the reasons why you, by the time you get to the Benson song, is because and you feel like, oh, you don't want to listen anymore. It's because the production on gravity, full for you, they they are not like high points. I don't know. They they don't have like any memory to it, like, oh, I'm listening, and that's just it. So yeah, the production on this is a big let down. But yeah, is it an enjoyable listening? It's still enjoyable. That's why he's making one of the albums you're talking about today. Yeah, but I feel like the production can be a lot better. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Lyricism, he dropped a few pond lines, but just like, oh, Emmo nice. I see what you did there. Um, I can't there was there's one that there's one that always sticks, but it's only when I'm listening to the song that it comes to my head. Um it was on what's that song? I think it was on the song with uh with Bad Boy Omel. Um, yeah, so yeah. There's there's there's something he said, something about Jati Jati, whatever whatever, but it came out good. So he if just a few pointers. The feature with Zinoleski was kind of underwhelming too.

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Yeah, I did always skip him.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Yeah, it was kind of underwhelming, and I don't know, maybe because um naturally out there, everyone has cancelled um the Malian, so I don't know, but it was it was a letdown to be honest. Uh, but yeah, kudos, Emma Grey, lovely album, good work, you know. We'll keep it pushing. I'll give you a six if I'm being honest, the for total review on everything. I'll give you a six total. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

I like, I like, I like youth a lot. I like youth a lot. Same, same.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

I like youth.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

I youth a lot just leads that particular project time, so a 6.5 because of youth. Yeah, so that's that's that's what that's what that's what that's what uh kept me sort of.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Um so I've always said intros are my things. So once the intro, I said, whoa, this is gonna be fire, then so yeah. Uh what's next on our list?

SPEAKER_00 21:08

To be honest, this one, why I love it so much. Why I love it this much, I don't know. So um, the first time I heard this girl was on a Peruzi album, I was like, okay, this this girl, she has something. And you know me, I'm a woman rapper.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

I didn't say this time, guys. I did not.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

So when I heard that voice, I was caught immediately and I said, I need to check out more things from this girl. But guess what? I forgot to check her out. But one of these days, I was listening to new music on Spotify, new music Friday, and she came up again. And when she came up, I was like, ah, I need to go back. Now, one of the most interesting things about esoterical, that's a name, esoterical, it's the writing is special. You know what? Most people just write and then you understand the lyrics immediately. They say, Oh, I don't like this, I don't like that. But one thing about esoterical is it's like she's a poet. It's like she's writing from a different perspective, and you need to really pay attention to what she's saying for you to understand the message she's trying to pass across. She's not your typical Afro-beat artist. She knows. I feel like if we have someone who's going to get a Pulitzer prize in the future, like Kendrick, it is esoterical. And she went I always like the shouts, Dilly.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

I like the shot. This one flogged them, bro.

SPEAKER_00 22:52

Esoterical way to do it. Yeah, I'm going, I'm going to turn it's Avant Avant God. When you even listen to this, you just know it's it's a special, it's a special project. Avant God. And she went into different uh different pockets on this project. She tried, there is this uh song where she featured someone, and the person rapped, it's another lady, she rapped a bit, and that entire song sounded like a rap song. And I was like, okay, esoterico, you're doing this also. You can you can do a bit of rap also. It's not like rap rap, but you know, it's like the singing rap, the melodic rap, sort of, and it was really nice. She did, she had like electronic sound on this project, also. She had electronic sound, she had alternative. It's a special album. She had she had like this folk pop theme on this album also. She had like country. She had like, do you understand? She had like high school rock on this little project. I esoterical, you you you you stole my you stole my heart with this because I really enjoyed the project. So the first song on the project is idols. When you listen to idols, have you ever been like in a place and someone is singing and you have like goosebumps go all over your body? Yeah, that's the first thing you feel when you listen to idols. It's it's just like that. You play the song and then you just go room goosebumps all over, all over. And then you go into so easy and you have this electronic sound. The switch is amazing. It's I don't know how to explain it. The switch from idols to so easy, so easy nine. Yeah. And but the best song on the project for me is Recovery. And Recovery is the one she playlisted. She playlisted Recovery a lot on so many platforms. You can easily find Recovery. And Recovery is the one that took me back to listening to Esoterica, by the way. When I listen to Recovery, this is her best vocal performance. She was singing her heart out, and there's something she does. Like when she's trying to pass a message, there's a way she changes her voice, like she's inflecting her voice to pass a message. You know, when you're speaking to someone and you're trying to say something important, you kind of like raise your voice a bit, or that kind of thing. So she does it in the singing, also. Like when she wants to push a message, she wants to pass a message across her, or something like that. And it's a really enjoyable project. In fact, I really love this project a lot. I want everyone to go and check it out. I want people to listen to it and let me know. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Yeah, if you're into alternative, like if you're into the kind of thing, uh, esoterica is the one for you. So you understand Delia has been enthusiastic about it, right? So if you if you press play on idols and you don't get the what was Delhi talking about, just know that you you have to be in a certain mood. Listen to it at night, kind of when everywhere is quiet, you know, there's nobody disturbing, you know, it's just you and your thoughts, or when you're just going on a walk or something, or by the seaside, some weird places, kind of like it's not just the regular, it's not it's not the regular listen, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

If you're looking for the party vibe, you won't get it from that. Uh, like it's like Kukou said, when you're alone and you want to actually pay attention, it's a it's a good listen. It's it's therapeutic in a way, in fact, and you will just enjoy it. So uh for me, the only thing I'll probably say um is this is not a project for every day. Do you understand? Yeah, um, yeah. I'm not going to pick up this album when I'm trying to like get in a good mood or get in a good vibe or when my when my people are around. I'm not going to play this album. You know, uh when I'm driving or something, I'm not going to play this album. It's not that album. It's uh it's more like a you me kind of album. Yes, yeah. Not for everyday use. So um that's the only thing that probably I would say, that's like the letdown for this.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

So really, it doesn't really have to be an everybody album. If it fits into creativity and all of that, the production seems massive, and you know, it looks like she explored a lot. Like she came in with electronics, she came in with everything. So we give her our points now, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Yeah. Um, so we have the production. The production is nice, it's what she it's what she likes to do. Yeah, you can tell. It's the and she went into several space, which I enjoy a lot. The creativity is there, the retention is there because you're always wondering what's next. What's next? What's next? The retention is there. Uh, the only letdown, like I said, is probably how replayable it is. Like, do I want to listen to this all the time?

SPEAKER_01 27:54

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

I see why you do I want to listen to this all the time? That's like, and it's it's a small album, uh, a small project, it's not like a long project, it's just a couple of songs. So it's easy to listen to. So, in terms of retention, it's going to have your retention, but do you want to go back to it? Do you want to replay it? Are you sure at the end of the month it's going to make like your top listings? That's the thing. So that's the only letdown. So I would say for this project, I give it like a like a seven. Yeah. I think it's a good seven. It's 7.5, in fact, for me.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Okay, fair. But either way, guys, uh, one thing is sure, we've put you onto a new artist, Esoterica. Yeah, so don't miss that. Don't miss that.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

Don't don't sleep on it at all.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

So I think we'll move on to the album that gave us the summer, song the summer, the song of the summer for 2026.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

Uh, if you're thinking is it is it decided already? Has everybody concluded this is the song of the summer?

SPEAKER_01 28:53

I don't I think the only contender will be a song released last year, which is Nakupenda, where everybody plays it. The one with Davido's Latan, TXE.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Oh, what about the song with Ashake and uh Black Bones? So it's well, a lot of players have actually been using that song on their post. The show.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

Are you gonna pick Chanel over Back Outside?

SPEAKER_00 29:22

That's a big question. I enjoy Back Outside, but Chanel is also really good. Chanel is already baby.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

One, two, three, four, cartel.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

You see what I'm talking about? Do you understand what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_01 29:39

It's crazy because Ashake starting his verse with your girlfriend, a mini baby. No, that's it, that's it, that's it to Odomodu Black. That's a direct shot.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

That's a direct, that's it, that's a direct shot. That's a direct shot. That's a direct shot. And by the way, when he said one, two, three, cartier. In Yoruba, cartier means count yours also. So when he counted, one, two, three, he's also saying count your own cartiers, also. So it's it's an interesting verse.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Very, very interesting on the polo, on the polo. I know he said I just have polo, it's okay. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

It's it's it's a good contender, it's a good contender, it's a good contender, yeah. But so but first, uh, I want you to talk about the uh dancing SARS. Yes, go into it.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

I don't carry us go another place. Sorry, sorry, my venue. So obviously, if you if you enjoyed Calvin Harris Wave Funk Wave or something, that out that EP, that was like a summer kind of EP. You will definitely enjoy the Afro-B version of it, which is the game needs us, right? It's not your regular EP, it's just something that you go emotionally high, as one of the songs says, right? So it's a very decent EP. SARS does this thing that every two market days he picks an artist and he does an EP with them. He started off with Loj, sorry, started off with Ward, he has done a few with Ward, but it's only one that's that still stands out till today. He did with A Banja, very good one. He did with there's someone he has done with again. I can't remember. Um, but then there's now Benson. So it's Benson's turn. I think after Benson, meam, I want Victory, SAS. If you're if you're hearing this, I need you to do this, your thing with Victory. So, yeah, production yeah is A1. I mean it's SARS, production cannot go wrong. SARS is not your mate, first off. Lyricism, right, is is good, but when you say creativity, this is what SAS will do on a normal day. This is what Benson would do on a normal day.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Can I come in on this lyricism part?

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

Um, one of my favorite songs of all time is that Skeptor Wii song. And why is it my favorite song? It's because you can sing along to it easily. And yeah, that was what Benson was able to achieve with this EP. Yeah, it's it's so easy to sing along with back outside because the the lyrics are very simple and catchy. Yeah, everybody is singing Angela. Where are you going for Sova? Yeah, are you at Timabia? Because it's easy. The same thing he did on Roman Soda. Very easy. That's a really good song, by the way. Roman Soda is a brilliant song. Uh, I think a song that really stood out for me on this project is Emotional. Emotional. I feel like that's that is Benton going out of his comfort zone.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

Oh, shama.

SPEAKER_00 32:47

When he did that thing at the beginning of the song, and then the beats dropped, and he went into like that luxury thing came to my Oh my goodness, nothing lasts forever.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

Nothing lasts forever.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

Bro, I was like, what is going on? This is so amazing.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

I think I think the the title of this EP it's is literally the meaning of what's happening in the Afro-B industry. Everybody is doing, let's give a club banger, let's give a um a song that everybody will be jumping, boom, boom, boom. But now, I don't know if you've noticed Dele, but the club scene is dying. And everybody's now just raving. Like people no longer want to go spend millions of bucks in the club and stay till night or till the next morning. Everybody just wants something that they'll just be nodding their head, they'll just be giving you, giving you, giving you. So that's what this EP is. That's a typical summer EP. That's what's happening now. So when they say the game needs us, it's literally we are moving from club to raving. We are just raving now. Nobody is if you notice the songs are easy. The closest song to maybe a club song, you say it's already, which is a typical Benson song. I think Boju forced this song into this album.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

But yeah, I feel like that is a very, very Benson-esque song. It's so different from and but one thing I did love about Already, again, back to the lyricism is um all the other songs that like very simple lyrics, Roman Soda, back up side. On Already was a Benson song because you could hear the lamba. He said some things using people's name as a as a he did some word plays on people. What was that particular name he used?

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Um, there was one he did with follow you party, shami, for me. Um uh they call me your Lenny. Love me, Orishe me, more Femi.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Orishe Femi he did something with Orishe Femi's name. There is another person he used his name as sort of in the song of circumstances change me.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

If you love me, please show me. Dana says she go show me Shagi. I'm not daddy Shoki.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

So when when when when I when I heard that song, I was like, okay, this is amazing. Because what else do you need? In fact, that is creativity, using those names, fair, fair, fair. Making it making it so interesting. I love that. I love it. I love it. Love it. Uh so are you saying this is gonna be a huge, a huge it's a it's a major contender. I asked myself, when I first listened to this project, I asked myself, I said, why is this not a project of this quarter? Quota. That was it. We haven't asked the question. That was the question I asked myself. Yes, we're going to decide.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

Yeah, because production-wise, it's excellent. Okay, no, delay wait, no, you define. Let's take it from the top. Creativity. Our creativity metric is trying something new, right? Yeah. On a real rights, they tried something new.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

They did, both of them, in fact.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

So you know, I always tell you that I can always tell it's SARS production.

SPEAKER_02 36:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

I could still tell from this, but yeah, you could tell that SARS was going into like a different pocket on this on this project. So, yes, SARS did something new, also.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

Yes, yeah, and it pushed Benson a bit from his regular song. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Because already is the only Benson song, yeah. Yes. In fact, emotional eye is is crazy. Do you understand? Like, this is not a normal Benson. This is not a normal Benson song.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

So four creativity because that's four out of five songs. That's like 90%, if I'm not mistaken.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

The only song I probably don't go back to much is Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

We're agreeing on so many levels.

unknown 37:07

It's okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

Retention, ability to listen to the album at a go.

SPEAKER_00 37:12

Yeah, it's like five songs, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:14

So and they put Frank Sinatra at the last.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

This one not too, you know, too tight, you know, to okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

Uh I think the retention is straightforward. 16 minutes, I think. Production on the album. We don't need to putress on this one too much. SARS is not your mate. Lyricism.

SPEAKER_00 37:39

Okay, this the the lyricism, I like I said, he kept it simple. The production was doing a lot of work, his voice was doing a lot of work, and he wanted a singer long stuff. But yeah, to be honest with you, Benson wasn't saying much on this project. Well, that's that's that's typically what's a lot of probability. They don't go through this. Benson, no, they talk anything for this project. You you just see my log and be like that. That's it, that's that's one. That's it, that's a letter on this. Um and one thing I did notice is I enjoyed when I listen to the album. Like when I pick it up, when I pick this project up and I listen to it, I enjoy it. But when I'm away doing other things, I'm not actively thinking about this project. I don't know why. As I'm like, I am not actively thinking about this project. Like, oh, when I'm not listening to this project at the moment, am I really killing to go and listen to the songs? No. Oh, okay. I see what you mean. Unfortunately, it's not like that for me yet. It's not like that. Unlike, um let me say I'm trying to think of an album that we've talked about in the past years. I always want to go and like esoterica gives me this um stuff that I know. Oh, I want to listen to it for this vibe. Because um, how do I say this? Dancing and SAS did an amazing job. But at the end of the day, it kind of felt like generic. I don't know. I'm not like crazy to eventually when I pick up the album, I enjoy it, but I'm not killing to go and you're not querying it.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

It's not you're not like, oh, I'm in the mood to listen to the game needs us. I get what you mean. I get what you mean.

SPEAKER_00 39:27

Until I pick it up and then I enjoy it. So that's like a letdown for me, sort of like, yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

I get what you mean.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Yeah, um, maybe because of the way they are like apart from like the produ and the promotion they did at the beginning, since the project dropped, they've I've not seen much about it anymore. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

They stopped pushing as much, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

Yeah, yeah. But to be honest with you, it's a very good one. I enjoy I enjoyed it, but uh yeah. So what should we give you? I'm giving I'm giving my metrics now. You will give yours. I say it's uh it's an eight for me. Eight, and that's really good. Eight over ten for me, yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:09

You know me, I like bias, so I'll give you a point five. That point five is because Benson is on it. Yeah, point five is needed.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Uh so who are we moving on to now? This one, people people must have started talking about him because he's starting to make waves. In fact, he's making big waves. They've seen it with like uh what's the name of this rapper? They've seen it, they've seen it with Ladipo, they've seen it with uh Baba, Baba himself, they've seen it with Donjazi, yeah, and which is actually nice because he deserves whatever he's getting now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he has a sophomore EP out now, and it's called Item 7.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Guy, are you seeing the titles these people are doing?

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Every everybody they try their creative with that title. You go party, you know, look for you know, look for item seven. Item seven item seven is important that you guys eat, and he was eating on this album.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

June, bro.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

So the first song that caught our attention for this particular project was with you, which which made our song of the week. Um, one of our songs of the week with you on this project. And I like with you, it's the single that pushed the most on this project, and I feel like it's still the best song on this project.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

I feel like that was some strategic title. With you came out last year, David or Male. Then with you. So when you said with you on any DSP, it this song would probably pop up. Yeah, it's nice on nice one.

SPEAKER_00 41:38

Emma strategic play. And it's nice, it's it had one of the excellent productions on the album. It had but it had background vocals, yeah, and it was it was a neat song. I liked it, but um, the EPO as a whole, uh, Emma Nigger touched on a pro. I don't like pronouncing that name because it seems like I'm saying the end word. I would say Emma. The first song is natural highness, and I like one thing he was saying. He said, till my copper natural highness. I like that particular thing when it comes on on the sun, till my cup run it's over. Feel me, feel me till my copper.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

So natural eighteenness is nice. Um, in fact, that's the one I've been like. When I'm like doing something, the lyrics from natural eyes just comes to mind. It comes to mind, and I sing along to it, thought. So it's catchy, I love it. Then there's do me next. But another song I really like is chance. Why did no one give me chance? I did dominate for my lane.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Give me chance.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

He's also that's Shane vibes chance, don't worry.

SPEAKER_00 42:55

He said, Why did no one give me chance? I did dominate for my own lane. That's another song, you know. Um, and but in fact, he he he actually said they don't want to give me chance, but I don't need them to give me permission. I don't need their permission to dominate. So I feel like that's the attitude everyone should get.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

I think maybe not on that song, but he said something about the sky being big enough for everybody on one of the songs. Like everyone can excel at the same time. And that's what people fail to remember or they fail to understand that. Uh my friend was telling me when he first started business, right? Uh, sorry, I'm digressing. When he first started business, see this is like 2018-ish. So he was selling a particular product and he went and met his competitor at the same time, delivering the same product, and he was frowning his face, sort of. So the the guy was like, Hey bro, how far your product? This is they had a little chit chat. Then um, the guy said something to him. He said, He's really not worried that the sky is very big, like everybody can fly. So even though we are Selling the same thing, bro. You can be making more than me. He said since that day, his mentality changed. So, yeah, same with what uh Emma is saying on his song, right? Like, guys, there's no need to envy another man, no need to be jealous, man. The sky is big enough. All of us get wins, we go fly. Okay, yeah. Sorry, bro.

SPEAKER_00 44:20

Have you ever told someone a good news and you can sense from their um countenance that this person is not exactly happy for you when you tell them a good news? Yeah, yeah. Like, why are you hating on another man's success? Come on.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Do more, talk less. Never get mad another man's success. Hey, oh no, good.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

MY episode, they come later. Guys, take you.

SPEAKER_02 44:48

That was gonna be classic.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

That was classic. Ungratest lover. I'm just giving a breakdown of this quickly. Ungratest lover, he said, You're not the world greatest lover, and I am not the world greatest lover. Or more we'll just hold ourselves tight. You know, you don't you don't expect me to be like perfect. I'm not perfect, you're not perfect, you know. Um, two imperfect people find each other, and you know, don't don't don't let's not make a big deal out of this. Expect perfection from you. So, also, guys, if you're listening out there, um, I'm not saying cheating. If your boyfriend cheats, leave him. If your girlfriend cheats, leave her. But there are some things that you need to show grace to people for. Come on, show your boyfriend some grace, show your partner some grace, show your wife some grace. You know, nobody's perfect, they can falter, but that's your love, that's your true love. So um, there is this thing Emma does on his songs. I know, I know you can do it because I remember when we were in school, you were able to put me on you you were able to sing um this guy's verse on Kanye song, that guy that um designer, designer's part on the candy song, and that's why I believe in you with my whole heart. I feel like you can do some of those things, and my done. Can you still do it by the way? I can find this in a banner.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

I believe in you.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Come on, bro. Come it, come it, come on.

SPEAKER_00 46:32

But and that's what I want to give him points for. He's doing something that not a lot of people are doing in the industry. So uh, in terms of creativity, Emma gets points for that, and that's why he's making one of the albums you're talking about today. Because um, and in terms of lyrics, he's trying his best as much as he can to touch on. In fact, on paradise, he said, um, I am at paradise, windows are eye open to all the politics, wide open to all the possibilities, and that's very important. Like, yeah, keep your windows open to every possibility.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

He seems he seems like a very positive guy, Emma.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Yeah, yeah. So I like that. You know, that's what we try to push on our podcast. People with like really important things to pass across, no everyday bomb bomb, smoke, weed. Come on, yeah. So this is this is this is a good, it's a good project. Uh, I like the production also. I mean, they are not like distinctive or anyone that like sticks out as crazy memorable to me. But I like the fact that I was able to like be creative in his own way, bring in his own style and stuff. So um I'm just going to give put all the metrics together and say this is another eight from me. This is another eight over ten projects for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

Uh I I think I would I would go with uh 7.5, and it's just because yes, it's creative, right? And um he's doing something different. But for me, this is the first time I'm hearing it. So I don't know if that's why I feel, oh, he's mad creative, that kind of thing, or this is what we'll be consistently getting from Emma as time goes. But yeah, retention, I was able to listen. I remember my first listening. I hit you up and I was like, bro, I finished this album. I did not stop at any point. I did not even know when. If I was like, oh, okay, don't finish. Yeah, that kind of thing. They're positive lyrics, he put it out there, topics discourse, he touched on life things, you know, put people in in sanity. So very, very lovely, lovely um project out there. He has another song with Ladie Poe with a fancy Emma. Very decent guy. 7.5 from me, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:48

That's nice. I like I like 7.5. I'm okay with it. I love it. Um now we are coming to some really big, heavy weights in the industry. Big boys. Some really important boys in the industry. Um, do you want to start with Omale's album?

SPEAKER_01 49:06

Yeah. So I was pressured to listen to this album. Let me just start by saying that first. Uh our mutwa rang me up and he said, Uko, have you listened to Clarity of Mind? I did not know that was the title of the album, I promise you. I was like, what is Clarity of Mind, bro? Speak to me. He said, It's Omala's. I said, Oh, it don't drop. He said, Yeah, it dropped two days ago or something. And he was saying the album took him back to Porter Court. I said, Okay. He explained everything that the album was a proper cleanse. And I think Omale said the album was literally something about uh if you listen to it from top to bottom, it's sanity. I'll be from bottom to top is is an insanity. So yeah, but I just want to talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 49:56

Let me put it this way yeah. When you're listening from top to bottom, it's um clearing your mind, like you're ascending from insanity. And when you listen it from bottom to top, you're descending into madness. So it's it's it's it's interesting. So please go on.

SPEAKER_01 50:15

Yeah, so it makes sense because that's already points for creativity. And um, to be honest, if the person that wrote it that made this album did not say that me, I wouldn't have known. I'm sorry, guys, for those that believed in me. Anyways, so uh it's Omale. You have to be in a certain mode, you have to be a bit down, you have to be, you know, kind of depressed. Uh tempo did his thing for Omar, and um it's an all-right album. I'm not gonna say it's bad, I'm not gonna say uh it wasn't good, but I feel like Omale should um sometimes go out of the box a bit, just a little bit. Like let's let's hear something different. I I can understand the things he did in things like uh waist and what's the other one, Holy Ghost and all of that. I can get all that. Omale has has proven to us that he can go a J-Cole, he can do a J-Cole on us, no features, although Elma is on this one, and we all know why he features Elma, featured Elma, because she's on his label. But yeah, my favorite song there is Canada Breeze. I think that's probably what's yours, Dilly.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

Um I like Julia, yeah, I like Julia, but um at the end of the day, I listened to Canada Breeze the most. And I think it made our song of the week also. Yeah, yeah, it did. It did.

SPEAKER_01 51:41

It was uh requested by was requested by one of um the gang. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:47

Yeah. Um I'm going to say this. This Omale's album needs a bit of background um discussion. So we should we should take our time a little bit.

unknown 51:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:57

Omale, Omale was supposed to make a certain album, and then he said he scrapped it because someone stole his style and whatnot. And um eventually, this is what we got. So Omale, like you said, Omale needs to step out of the box. If there's an album out there that Omale is supposed to drop that is scrapped, Omale, I need to listen to that album because this album, I enjoyed it, it's a good album, but it's the Omale we've always known. I really expected something different. That's why I love Don't Love Me, because Don't Love Me feels like it's it's not the usual Omale song, right? Don't love me feels more. Um, don't love me, baby.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

There's a lot of truth in that song, also.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

Like when you the topic touched on that song is insane. This guy said he he he bought house for a woman.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

He said he doesn't want them, he just wants to get in her pants. Like he you're so truthful. I'm like, Omale, bro, your speed just in the mind of so many people. No, bro, in in the world we have today, a lot of people just do things, but they know what they want. They know where they are going, but it doesn't want one. The song is too rich. So yeah, uh it's it's actually it's it's kind of different. Don't love me. It's I I still feel, I see, I feel Homale took some things from that album that was scrapped. Of course, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Because, bro, you say in the scrap, you scrapped a whole album, and you do not even like one thing, one song to say okay, or interpol or do something different with it. So I feel like some songs were tapped in from there. Uh, because some of the songs were fast-paced, some were still.

SPEAKER_00 53:49

That's why I love the fact that don't love me slow down. I feel like I want I want Omale in this space more. I want to hear more of Omalay in this space. I would love to hear more Malay. Um, and then uh I just want to say something about the album itself is like cleansing, clarity of mind. So there are many things to clear your mind with. It talked about women. Um, some people, when they need to clear their mind, it's they are chasing women relentlessly. Um, it talked about addiction, you know, when it comes to drugs, like that's where you get on water spirits, Canada Breeze, you know, yeah. Um, so many things like that. That is one. And then it talked about money also. Money is something that some people use and it's what's cleansed their mind. You have you ever met someone that's sad and then they're like, oh, if I see one million dollars right now, I would be happy. I'm gonna be happy. Yeah, you know, he even okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Continue, please. I think what you want to say is what I want to say. The last one is uh the spiritual realm.

SPEAKER_00 54:56

Yes, did you get? He said some things about like amen, holy ghost, and some other things. I mean, not like the entire song, but a bit of the song speaks about the spiritual realm. Some people go diabolical ways, some people run to go, yeah, whichever one you're you know. So um, but I cannot tell you this is a particular way to clear your mind, but one thing I know for sure is. Guys, if you ever feel depressed, if you ever feel down, I know there are times I've always felt down, but once I pick up my phone to call my friends and speak to my friend, my mood gets better instantly. So you have friends around you, call your friends, speak to them. Don't be shy.

SPEAKER_01 55:39

Yeah, guys, you can't do it on your own. I swear, you can. You can never. That's why it's not only you in this world. That's why you have friends, you have family, you have neighbors, if not only you for just the one bush or something. So, yeah, please, please. You know it's tough, but speak to someone, man. Speak to someone. Even we we you can speak to HMOPO, and we can help when we where we can. So, yeah, Clarity of Mind is uh it's a good album, to be honest. It's it's actually good. Like topic. Yeah, he has given us all the ways to go through depression or go through sadness. Um, creativity, the lineup that insanity and sanity thing is creative, but sound-wise, there's no creativity there, or it's the same on Malay, we know. So um he just kept it safe, which is not bad too. Uh, production, tempo was alright, was good. Like I said, Lily will talk more on production. I mean, I'm not a production.

SPEAKER_00 56:38

What do you think? I feel like he needs to step out from Tempo a bit. Tempo. You know, try some, try some other producers. I feel like he will shine more on something else. There's there's someone that has really caught my attention lately, and that's Blaze Beats.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:54

Reach out to Blaze Beats, and I know Omale should not have issues with London. Reach out to London, work with London, work with Blaze Beats.

SPEAKER_01 57:02

If allegedly Omale has issues with Rhema, London and Rhema are best of friends.

SPEAKER_00 57:07

Sort of we don't need all these in the industry. Come on, please just So we don't know.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Allegedly, like I said.

SPEAKER_00 57:14

You know, peace it out, guys. Just Omale, step out of your comfort zone. So, yeah, production, it wasn't. I mean, this is the tempo we've all known. Tempo didn't do anything extraordinary. Come on, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

Um, so on terms of retention and ability to listen onto the album on um at a go, I would say, yeah, I could, I can, and I have done it, but just like how Dile said about the game needs us, I'm not really depressed, so I don't always feel the need to let me go back to listen to and this is no shade, it's just it's just me. I would listen when I go on the album, I just pick certain songs, Julia Canada Breeze. I am I am exactly Holy Ghost, you know. But I'm not just craving a clarity of mind. I'm not in that mood. Do you get me? So yeah, um, I would still give it a good 7.5, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

Um, I like there's a stomping part in one of the songs where they were stomping. Is it um is it Julia or Canada Breeze?

SPEAKER_01 58:20

It's Canada Breeze.

SPEAKER_00 58:21

It's Canada Breeze, like that stomping part. I really enjoy that part. I always go to listen to the song because of the stomping part. I love it, and I love what he was trying to do on Merry Go Round.

SPEAKER_02 58:32

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Merry Go Round and Merry Go Round, but this day it's a and the song sounds like a roller coaster, actually.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

If you listen to it, yeah, so it's merry-go-round. So, in terms of creativity, it was not lacking in a lot of people. No, it wasn't like it wasn't, it was just like we wanted him to step out of his comfort zone, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_01 58:56

So maybe we're asking for too much, actually.

SPEAKER_00 58:59

We are not asking for too much. Omale can deliver this too much. Omale is a navy weight in the industry now. Yes, Omale can give us something special.

SPEAKER_01 59:07

But that's the thing now. He could, I mean, he could give us something. We're like, no, Omar, go back to what we knew.

SPEAKER_00 59:13

Omalek, that's the problem with us, right? Sometimes when someone steps out of their comfort zone, you guys are telling them, man. You can't. We want the old Omale. I'm not saying I don't enjoy this album, but it's an eight for me. I feel like Omale can give me a solid 9.5 album. You know, yes, I feel like Omale can do it when he puts his mind into it. Not just drop because I want to drop something I haven't dropped in a while. This album is inspired. You can tell it's inspired because you can tell this is him trying to find clarity of mind. We've always known Omale to be like depressed and stuff. In fact, this album is a bit more bubbly than his previous works.

SPEAKER_01 59:51

Yeah, he's no longer depressed.

SPEAKER_00 59:53

He's no longer depressed, though. He doesn't see waste. He's supposed to make lift out from depression. Uh, this next guy is also a major heavyweight, a major player in the industry. He said, Um, I just blew, but I know my sets.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:12

I mean, you already know who he's talking about with that state.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:17

This is when I listen to this album, I said, This is the big boy music of Ashake. This is the this is the this is what this is what Ashake wants to make. This is where Ashake has been going all this while. This is this is the sound Ashake wants to to to make.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:34

Because you didn't see the title of the album, Money, you know, no stress.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:38

Ashake has always been, you can tell from the way he carries himself, you can tell from the way he dresses, he wants to be a big boy. Do you know, like Lego's big boy? You know, not just I have money, like you'll be wearing polo and running. No, it was and this album, when it when the album dropped, I went on Twitter and I wanted to see people's reaction, and people were reacting like, uh-uh, what has Omali? Uh well, sorry, what has Ashake done? This is not the Ashake we know, Ashake like that. Say it's the um production that's carrying the album and whatnot. And then in my mind, I just said, bro, this is big boy music.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:24

Moment of truth. Moment of truth. I was so eager for this album to drop. It dropped on, I remember exactly my first listen, 30th of April. So I went grocery shopping. I was so I was that eager. When the album dropped, I said, okay, because I originally go around all the the aisles on the at the store, right? And I was like, this thing, this might take a while, right? I looked at the album, it was what, 35 minutes. I knew I was going to spend about that time. So I plugged in my ear and I was I plugged in the album and I was listening to it. Moment of fruit. I raised my hands in the air now, and I was like, no, Ashake, you did not just do this. I wasn't happy. So on Sunday that because that was on a Friday, Sunday that week I happened to speak to someone, and she said, Yeah, it wasn't. Then I spoke to another Ashake fan, and she said, Oh, Mr. Money with the Vibe and Work of Arts is a lot better than this one. Then I then spoke to you and told you, I don't know, but this album, you never entered gear yet. Then you now say, you know what? That grocery shop where you maybe not waiting, they vex you. Listen to and where you know they do anything. And ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you that the second listen, I was glued. I was sending you the songs I liked as I was listening to. Oh, see the transition from this one to that one. No, no, no. So it's a really good album. Go on, sorry for correcting. I just needed to come up with that. No, thank you for saying that.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:01

Um, someone who listens to our podcast sent me a message and said, I am waiting for your Ashake album review. That was when the album initially dropped, and I said, you know what, guys, you don't rush. When you want to give a review on an album, you take your time. This is something you need to listen to over and over. So, one thing um the Benton and Sars EP lacked was you wanting to go back to it. But that is the opposite for the money album. When you listen to the money album at first, you're like, okay, what has Ashake done? But when you maybe on Instagram and someone uses one of the songs on their post, you'll be like, okay, let me go and listen to this album again. And when you get there, you're listening to the entire thing. You're like, okay, okay. And then he has like one thing Ashake is really good at is, you know, it's the lamba. He has lamba. You get lamber for days, like Instagram captions sort of stuff. And I okay, let me start from there. When the single started dropping initially, why love, Batman Gangsta, I loved uh Batman Gangsta so much. And I was like, why is Ashiken up pushing this song more than Wild Love? Why is Wild Love doing more numbers than Batman Gangsta? Because I love Batman Gangsta. And then when the album eventually dropped, and Worship. Really? Yeah, it's not my cup of tea. I know you like it, but I don't, I'm not a big fan of Worship. Okay, I don't, I'm not a big fan. Um, everybody they went straight to gratitude and forgiveness. Good song. Gratitude, great song. I love that song. But where personally I am stuck, it is wa and mcbh.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

So there's there's a run, there's a run from amen, wa, mcbh, and maybe why love too. That's an impeccable run for me. You're right.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:11

You just I agree with you completely. So uh that's why I said someone who has been on my radar a bit is Blaze Beat. Blaze Beat is the one on Wa and MCBH, and you can tell from when you're listening to the album that those songs felt different. So um, most of the songs were produced by Ashake's favorite producer, they always work together, but um Blazebeat produced Wa and MCBH. And I like something about Wa um Searching Fire, Searching Fire, Searching Fire. That's the way that's the way I love that part. When he that's my favorite song, by the way, on the project.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

You know, Amen, Eman goes into War, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I think Eman goes into Wa. So, what I like about Emen is You know what they always say about fella's music? That you could quickly make nodos before the song starts. On Amen, Ashake allows 50 seconds, 50 or 52 seconds of just the beats, just you enjoying the beats. Then he starts singing at the 51st or 52nd second. That period, I could quickly make a cup of tea, arrange myself with a slice of bread, and just sit down and say, Oh, yeah, Ashake, start singing for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Inlet the song Sima.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

Bro, it was so good. Then the ending then just flows into wa.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

Then said I be searching lately.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:44

Then that guy with the undertone.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:49

And then he says, um baby, baby, one man food is another man. No, no. No, why is it a crazy song? And then he goes into MCBH. Good.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:06

Money can't buy happiness.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:07

It's a perfect song because money really can't buy happiness. Happiness.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:12

I know Ashake is saying this from a place where he really understands because I'm sure he has gotten into some crazy money now.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:20

He's like, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:23

But um Ashake seems like a happy guy. I don't think Ashake is someone who is not happy. He always looks happy in his videos, in his stuff, whatever he's saying. But I feel like this happiness comes from the people around him. As you can tell, Ashake is someone who is um his day one, he will never let him down. He's always going around with his day one. There is this guy on Jamoli. There is uh no, there's a uh Toki. Toki is with him. Toki is always tweeting about him on Twitter.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:54

There's this guy that designs his that designed his um thing on his car. I can't remember his name right now. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:59

Even even the Yoruba actor guy, that um guy to Ashake carries them along. And I feel like um one of the things that brings him happiness is family and friends, and he's telling you for a fact that money is good, but money can buy you all the happiness. You need you need you need things that make you happy. So uh, but just MCBH is also a really good song, lyrics-wise, production-wise, you know, like the flow of the song, the lambda, the everything is just it's a perfect song, also. Wow, MCBH, amazing. Another song I'm going to quickly talk about quickly is Oba. You get the way they flow for Oba, which just amazed me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, is it he said, he said um um bomb bomb motherfucker? Uh size two, nibata bola. Um I remember Oje bomb, oje bomb, oja bom, motherfucker, size 42, ni batabola. And then he says, um the women around me, did they call me uh all the girls there they call me Mikey? And I mean that was that yeah yeah yeah. So um amazing song.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:21

So I have to before before before you do metric metrics for this. So on gratitude, I don't know if you know, lately we've just been talking about sampling, interpolation, and stuff. So I was listening to this album, right? And towards the ending of gratitude, there's this keyboard uh thing, and my friend said, he just tapped me. I said, Can you hear Christ is the newborn king? And now we had to rewind it. I didn't get it, I didn't get it. We had to rewind, and I was I was like, okay, I agree, I agree. Then when we now go to skillful, meanwhile, that's another song I like. I like that that um that that place that does that thing. So towards the ending, there's this um willily song that he ends with we used it for one of our skillful, he added that, and I was like, okay, my friend was like, Can you hear the yeah? So yeah, I'm on this album. Let's go to the metric before we sleep on our shaky.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:40

Nine for me overall, it's a nine. It's a nine. I I love it. I always go back to it. I listen to it. Creativity.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:48

Do you think I should try something new?

SPEAKER_00 1:10:50

Um, one of the reasons why I'm giving like all the metrics together, I'm giving the album a nine, is because maybe creativity is not the standout, but yeah, in every other aspect, it's so, so, so high on every other aspect. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:08

I know you can listen to the album when it goes 100%. The production is sick.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:13

Umrics, it's just big boy music, nothing too crazy, and then you have songs like MCBH that like um how do you say it, touch on important topics. Yeah, so gratitude is important, forgiveness is an important topic. You know, those are those are some things that um that makes the album like gives it, and it's an album that you can listen to to upload when you're cleaning anything you're doing, it it works.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:45

It just is an all-activity album. Yes, yes, uh just so that I don't give the same as you, I'll say 8.9.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:57

No problem, it's accepted. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:01

So uh I think we have one last big boy, one last, no, is he really a big boy? But yeah. In my mind, it might not be everybody's cup of tea, you know, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:13

In my mind, though, in my mind, he's a major player also in the industry. I think this is uh he's an heavyweight, he's a heavy shaker. Just think of the people he was able to bring in on this album. He had like, I think this is the album we are talking about today that are like the most features and like the big features.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:29

Yeah, actually, actually. Um, he had uh one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight features. Sorry, eight songs that have um features.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:40

Okay, so let me let me give you a breakdown of why he needed these features on the on the project. What you know Johnny Drill for is folk, the folk songs, the country songs, you know. Yeah, he makes it like in the African, the Nigerian way, don't let me say African way. But yeah, um, there is something he did on this particular project. He has been trying to do for a while, he has been trying to change the sound a bit to make it more mainstream. And in fact, I saw an interview with him and Don Jazzi where he said he had a discussion with Don Jazzi, and Don Jazzi was like, you know what, we need to go a bit more mainstream with your songs. We need to go a bit more mainstream with your sound. And I'm sure that is why we have these artists. Because if you listen to this project, before the morning lights, that's the name of the project, that's the name of the album. On the songs where um Johnny Joe sang alone, he started. He went back to what he knows. Good, yeah, but you did my mind. I didn't enjoy you. He went back to what he knew, he went back to the same country folk songs type of thing. But on the song where he had features on, he still with that afro-pop sound, and that's why he needed it a lot. Colorado is the best song on the project by far. Yeah, uh, because um it takes all the it takes all the spots, mainstream, good vocal performance. The mixing is incredible. The um the the features are perfect. Yon John did a big thing on that particular song.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:20

Is it my favorite? It's not my favorite. Uh, my favorite is the first one.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:23

I think your favorite is the one that made Song of the Week last week. Yeah, or last week before last.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:28

There's just something Fireboy does. Oh my baby, Angelina. That thing makes me want to go back to Angelina all the time, but Colorado, I feel like, is the most mainstream, the perfect song for everything. And then you had a song with um Loj. Logie killed it. There was something Lojie was saying in his lyrics that was like, this is the way Lojie thought. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Lojie, I didn't want you. I think Loj.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:55

Loje is he's really good with features. Like he knows when to deliver. He treats the feature like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:00

You keep saying, you keep saying this all the time, and I keep at the end.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:03

Yeah, yeah, no, no. Because I like when you saw you're you're featured on somebody's song. You do it that you treat it like it's your own thing. There's some people when you give them your stuff, they don't handle it with care. But that's Loj for you. Handle your stuff well. So, yeah, uh the album was really experimental. I think Timmy Banks is not the real experiment. I'm sorry, Timmy. Uh, this one was really experimental because it must be really tough for you to move from folklore to do mainstream. Looking at Johnny Drew yourself, he doesn't look like someone that wants to be jumping like Badu Paddy. He looks like a gentle, you know, Morio Kuna kind of guy. He won't look like someone in Moriocula, everywhere will be heated. He likes his instruments, everywhere is gentle, expressing love. But people are forcing him to sing about Colorado. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:49

Colorado is still about love. Love Colorado.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:55

He made it more relatable, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's it's a good project. I think on creativity, I'll give it up to Johnny. I'll give it up to him, to be honest. Uh the only the only my my only uh shortcoming or the only place I have an issue with is retention. Uh and I think it might have to do with the arrangements, maybe, because one minute I'm on an Afropop high, and the next minute Johnny Drill is telling me how to love again and all those, you know, slow. So it's going that's so um at some point I'm like, let me stop and come back. So retention wasn't really hundred for me. I don't know. What about you?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:45

Can I do all the metrics quickly and just okay? Go for it, mate.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:49

Go for it, mate.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:50

Um this is a 10 over 10 album for me. Yes, because um in fact, the songs were um where he went back to what he knew best when he sang alone, like blown away, like Moyawa. Blown away. I see the reason why Johnny Drew does that because he's really exceptional at that. The message, the singing, he's really, really good at it, and that's why it's really difficult for him to like make the mainstream pop songs because he's really good at making these folk songs, and in fact, these are some of my favorites on the album. Um, Blown Away, No Yawa, and he was singing alone. In fact, Last Forever is really good, also, and he was singing alone.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:45

But then, I like the song with is it Aquila or something? What's her name?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:49

Yeah, oh what Aquila was doing. I don't I can't pronounce that. Aguila or what I like that album. Yeah, that he was doing on Choco, he's amazing. That voice, when that voice came in, it was nice. Um, I love everything about this album, the features, the production, the mixing on this. I mean, did you did you did you listen to this mixing on this album? It's like insane. Everything is A1.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:14

Luigi's name is A1, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:15

And and then I went to check and I I I saw that um Don Jazzi had a hand in production of this album. Johnny Jewell himself produced on this album. Um, this person also produced Blaze Beat also produced on this. Blaze Beat, I said, is on is on my radar, he's really doing amazing things, he's doing something. There is a song with Nonso Amadi. I have a feeling non-so Amadi produced that song because it sounded very Utah. You know that thing Ulta people do with the soft drums. Yeah, that's yes, that thing they do with the soft drums. And when I heard it, I was like, okay, you know what? Johnny Drew, you have my heart with this, with this album, you have my art. And of course, it's Johnny Drew. He's not talking about Bomb Bomb, he's not talking about this thing, it's amazing lyrics and stuff. So um thank you, thank you, thank you, Johnny Drew, for this album. I enjoyed it so much. I'm going to bring it down a bit. Don't let me say 10 over 10. Don't let me be, don't let me be crazy. 9.5.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:11

I needed to answer one question before you leave your score. What is the retention on this album? Is this a good one? Oh, yeah, I know, I know, I know you want to.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:24

So the first time I listened to this album. When I listened to this album, I took a break. The first time, the first time I took a break. I left and then I came back to it. Yeah. But the second time I listened to it, I I I was amazed. I was I was able to listen to the entire thing non-stop. To be honest with you, it got better on the second listen. Got really better on the second listen. Okay, so it's it's left to you to tell us what's your metric and which song is going into Q2. No, is it is wait.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:02

So I think I think the this this this uh we have to decide which one will be the album of Quota 2, to be honest. It's between money and before the morning lights. Before the morning lights. So now this guys, I don't know what albums you guys have liked or what you guys have appreciated, but this this is Dele and I's top two. Clarity of Mind came close, but at some point we had to push it down. Yeah, but we haven't decided which one is gonna go. So Dele, now let's let's take it one after the other. There's we still have a bit of, we don't have a lot of time, but creativity. Johnny Drew was creative. Was Ashake creative?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:53

I like the Johnny Drew stuff because he stepped out of comfort zone. But ma'am, it's it's an album that there's no real theme to it. I know he tried like creating a theme by starting the song with you're on flight with me, welcome on board, I'll take you to your destination. You understand? But after that beginning part, um nothing else, nothing else went with that theme of being on flights. It all went back to like love, turbulence. So um in terms of that, I like the name of the album before the morning light, it sounds very Johnny Drew stuff, like before the morning light. And um, yeah, so creativity, not not nothing insane. Do you understand? Yeah, so from both of them, right? Yeah, but money, money. In fact, I feel like the creativity on before the morning light is even more than money.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:52

If if yeah, Ashake hasn't really left the ammo piano sort of sort of if it just came back to itself, like the last album didn't have as much Amaz Piano as this particular one. So he's back to it. He came back to his comfort zone. Retention. I mean, I'm going with Ashake's album.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:17

I know you will. It's it's it's it's the easier listen to be honest. It's the easier listening. So I'm going to judge on my first listening of both albums. Um, on the first listening of Ashake's album, I didn't need to take a break. Um, and they are not so far away. Both one is 14, one is 13. So it's not like one is really longer than the other. Yeah. But I took a break from Johnny. Johnny. Yeah. Okay. I took it. I took a break from Johnny.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:44

What do you think had better production?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:47

Um I believe Johnny Drew's um album was better produced. I don't Ashake's, like, let me tell you some songs on Ashake's album I didn't like. I didn't like the Asambe song. I don't listen to the biggest. I don't, I don't, I don't listen to skillful. Um, I don't listen to don't listen to skillful, just listen to that part that I said. I'm sorry, I don't, I don't, I don't listen to skillful. I don't go back to it. Um, I don't listen to the intro.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:20

My baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:23

I don't listen to the intro. Um sometimes I listen to worship, but it's not my cup of tea, like I said. So that's four songs I don't necessarily like. Do you understand? Um, not that I can't, I don't I hate them, but I don't, I'm not like crazy about them. But on the Johnny Drill album, I can't tell you this is a song I don't enjoy, to be honest with you. The only song that sometimes I don't play to the end is second chance, and that's the last song on the album. That's the way it is for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:54

So for me, right, I think uh both of them have good production. But I think the mastering of Ashake's album was done by different people. Just example, worship is obviously not the same person that did worship and the rest of the album. That's just a good starter. So that will Ashake will lose points for production on that one. Lyricism, Dele. Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:23

Okay, lyricism goes in different ways. Um, like we said, sometimes keeping it simple makes a lot of sense. You're able to pass your message across easily. Um saying catchy words is really interesting, also. It makes an album listening interesting. Um, so and that's what Ashaker shined on in this particular album. The lyricism is exceptional in terms of being catchy, in terms of being able to sing along, in terms of touching on topics in a simple manner. Money can buy happiness. I mean, people have written books about this topic, people have people have people have made movies about this topic, and uh and ashake just touched on it in like three minutes, and then he passed the he passed the message across. So Omale, Omale, nah, what did they call this guy, this writer?

SPEAKER_02 1:25:18

Um Shakespeare.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:20

Shakespeare, Nacino Achibe. He was able to achieve something people will do in 100 pages in two minutes, and that's exceptional. Forgiveness. Forgiveness is an important topic. I love that he's doing that also, and it's not just all based on love. Um, meanwhile, on Johnny Drew's side, Johnny Drew spoke about different aspects of love, chasing after a woman, being intoxicated by woman's love, and even on Speak Up, Logey was doing something crazy with that topic. So, um, Colorado being high on love, you know. So um Johnny Drew touched a lot on love in different formats. That's an it's it's an important topic, but I feel like that's also a topic that people have mentioned and talked about a lot. So repetition. So we in fact, when you it has songs that are not about like love on the album, but the entire album is almost about love. I mean, if it was like following a particular theme, I would have appreciated it, but it was just like different, mm-hmm, and it was just love. So um, I feel like if you had stuck to theme in terms of that, I'm taking you on a flight, you know, and then we start by taking off, then we start by being in the air, and then we talk about landing. If there's a way you could have done it that would have made a lot of sense, but I gave this album a 10. Now I'm talking about it like it's not a 10 anymore. I don't know what is going on. Thank you for bringing me back to it. But yeah, so they all they all just are like different things that are spectacular about them in terms of, it's it's a it's a very tough one. Who has the final say? Uko has the final say.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:16

For this one, we should have brought it judge.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:20

You don't speak from your heart of heart, which one did you enjoy the most? Like, use your first listen. Uh no, don't use your first listen. Use your second listen, use your third listen. What do you think? Which one in your heart of heart?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:36

I think creativity is a big deal, so I'll give before the morning light.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:41

Because I personally want to go with before the morning light, because um, I feel like uh we've seen this at Shakir a lot. It's a good album, but if I want to like push someone to an album and I want this person to go and have a time, I want you to try something, listen to something different. I want you to, it's the before the morning light. I'll push to you. I mean, if we are like in a setting we're grilling barbecue or something, I'm going to play what is it called? Money. Yeah, but if I'm like introducing someone to music, I want to push someone, I want to, you know, recommend a particular album, I'll recommend before the morning light. And I was really happy to see Johnny Drill do this. That's why I feel like this is my Q2 album.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:26

Yeah, okay. So you've heard the man. For Q2, we are going with the winner, Johnny Drew before the morning light. I think uh, to be honest, there's been a lot of decent albums that dropped in quarter two. Um, an album that funny enough we didn't talk about that we both enjoyed was See What We've Done, King Promise and Mr. Easy. That would be like our honorable mention, but I don't know, for whatever reason, he didn't make these cuts. So if you're listening to us up to this point, I think you should go listen to the album. It's really good. There's there's a song that I really like there. Uh that's the one that the sample West Life was the backstreet boys that way. That's like my best song on the album. Iceprings dropped, but it was quite underwhelming, to be honest. Um, Manuel's dropped as well. Um, Small Chops. Uh, at the time this recording will drop Weissy's album, it's out.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:29

Um probably to make you three.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:33

Yeah, Destiny. Destiny, I hope that's how it's pronounced. Destiny also dropped um the whole have run out of the people that were demonstrated. Apex Village. Apex Village. Apex Village dropped the floor.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:47

They dropped the collaborative efforts together.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:49

Famous, famous Pluto dropped as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:52

Famous Pluto dropped, fuse dropped, the reset list. So we've all listened, we've listened to all these projects, but um the ones we spoke about today are the ones that that stood out, that really yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:07

Um so I don't know what you guys think. Did we make the right choice in quarter one? Have we made the right choice in quarter two? But what does what this means again is the top album from quarter one from myself and daily was Joe's EP, Jiggy. And the top album from quarter two for my myself and Daily is Before the Morning Light, Johnny Drew, Johnny Drew. In quarter three, we will have a top album. In quarter four, we will have a top album, and hopefully we will crown the album of 2026 at some point. So, guys, stay tuned and we'll see which album Yeah Meow Podcast thinks was the best in 2026, and anyways, I'll say this one at some point in life. So, guys, yeah, thanks for listening. Thanks for coming on the show as always. My name is Uko, and I have Dele here with me.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:10

Thank you for listening to us. We love you guys. Um, but before we go, the song of the week, everybody's favorite part of the show. Yeah, um, what should be the song of the week? We've talked about projects, we've talked about EPs, we talked about albums. But what song really stood out during this period for you?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:34

I think just because of what you have on your head, I'll go with For Last Fine Sheet.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:39

Oh, that's nice. I like I like that. I like that. I like that song. I actually like the song and I like the title. Just find it incredible. That guy, you guys, you've heard it.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:55

So as you go into this week, I hope you find yourself a fine sheet. And if you have one already, keep her and see you guys in two weeks.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:02

See you guys in two weeks.